Disband the OPP - Viewer's Comments

Disband the OPP - Viewer's Comments

The disband OPP poll has only been up for a one day and you can see the results. Here are some comments we have received.

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voted yes.however,some comment is required.the police have been reduced to the status of tax collectors.prohibited from performing their duties by senior managers. paid for disregarding our laws [usually overtime]. most officers male and female are responsible upstanding citizens. the fault is current unqualified management.

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Gary & Christine:

Prior to reading your posting today I thought the RCMP should be brought in to get a situation, that obviously is over the OPP's heads, under control. I now strongly believe that is our only chance. We have men, women and children living under terrorism conditions that we as CANADIANS should not be having to deal with. Bring them in, destroy the houses our tax dollars have bought on the DCE and disconnect all services to the property. Since we are paying for it all we should have some say in what is done with it.

Also, since the OPP were so stupid to supply your personal information to this group of disruptive people, the surveillance of your property by RCMP is also likely needed now. The RCMP should be notified of the danger the OPP have put you in. Obviously you cannot depend on the OPP to do anything if thugs should arrive on your doorstep some night.

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Sir, I have been following your column for somewtime now and I have wtitten you before defending the OPP with which I was a member for for over 30 years, you, in my opinion seem to be on a personal vendetta against the OPP, you and your wife have taken on this cause or whatever on your own free will and seem to be upset that people are not sending you donations in support of YOUR CAUSE, to suggest that the OPP are endangering your lives is not only ludicrous but sick and I think you need proffesional help, these men and women are sworn to protect the people of Ontario (Yes even you) and I think your suggestion to people calling for a disbanding of the OPP is highly uncalled for....get a life..

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Dear GARY I used to spend as much time as i could visiting my big brother and sister inlaw and their 3 young babys in Caledonia. In the last six months the OPP has done nothing to help protect any none native in caledonia . My brother and sister inlaw and their 3 young have lived in hell,my 3kids are scared to visit now . I WISH THE RCMP WOULD GO TO CALEDONIA maybe then families could belive in the law again,and maybe the kids would be safe to play and go to school.

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Hi Gary and Christine;

Thank you very much for the new postings on your site. Thank you Christine - for the laughs of the "Timbit ladies". I laughed so hard I was crying.

Thank you Gary and Christine - for taking the risks you have taken by visiting Caledonia and standing up for justice and democracy. I am so sorry that this small town and the lawlessness that occurs here has resulted in death threats to both of you. I am sorry that our local policing is unable to protect you and your well being. It is issues like these that make Caledonia a threat to anyone who dares to enter. When I say "thank you" for the risks, it is because it reminds me that the situation in Caledonia is real and far reaching, and that the government will not be able to assuage the fears and tears of a small town with words alone.

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Yes, I think the RCMP could take over in the remote areas of Ontario starting with Caledonia taking over the OPP and putting RCMP instead they would do a better job handling the Caledonia standoff and I think they should start keeping a better eye on how the OPP is handling things in Ontario. I think the OPP should report to the RCMP on what is going on in the Caledonia standoff and any other big advent's happening after all the RCMP is our top police force.

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The OPP continue to prove to Tax Paying citizens they could care less about your safty or the security of your home.They have even provided the names, addresses , phone numbers and other personal information to native protesters about people they know the Native Warriors have a BOUNTY out on.YES the OPP are actively helping the WARRIORS track these people down. I am disgusted and have had enough of the OPP.

The Caledonia ladies could do a better job - at least they would TRY!

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Sign suggestion

1. Suggestion for a sign that Caledonia shopkeepers could hang in their windows:

"NO DOGS OR OPP ALLOWED"

2. Question: Why has the mayor of Haldimand not already taken action to bring in the RCMP or the Canadian Forces to take over from the OPP cowards?

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OPP need to be replaced

I have had respect for the OPP for at least 35 yrs that I can remember. I now have witnessed with my own eyes the past 4 months that the OPP are actually enforcing racial profiling policies ie treating non native persons in Caledonia as if they were the criminals in this whole Caledonia mess. At the same time, if they determine that you are a native, they will immediately look away from you and let you carry on with any form of law breaking that you want to do, so as to not upset you in any way. This is clearly racism (treating people different under the law). I used to think that the front line OPP officer was ok (ie under orders that they didn't like either) and that it was just their leaders that were at fault. However, I now think that since we have not heard a large outcry from the front line officers, I am led to believe that they are in agreement with their leadership's policy of not enforcing the rule of law nor protecting innocent law abiding citizens. To me, they have been brainwashed from the McGuinty Gov down through their chain of command to the frontline constable. You see, if frontline OPP Officers can refuse to uphold the very most basic purpose of their existence (to protect innocent citizens), then why the hell should it be so hard to band together against their higher chain of command and call for limited strikes and such (like many other police forces to when they ie don't like their current wages or something else bugs them). So it is very clear, that since no major outcry has happened, then most of the frontline officers must be in support of this present racist policing policy. Therefore, it is also very clear to me that they should be disbanded, and regional police forces need to be developed that will not be as easily corrupted by a provincial government that doesn't care about a small town that will not make any difference in getting them elected again. A regional police force situation will be more accountable to the local people and will be far more willing to defend them from terrorist like intimidation and tactics that some natives use presently (clearly, not all natives are in support of terror tactics and I wish they would become more vocal too).

One thing that I would like to say to the OPP at this point is that it is offensive to many of us in Caledonia when you officers wave at us or do foot patrols in our nieghborhoods. You insult our intelligence when you think that we can't see through your efforts to "win the hearts and minds" of the non native citizen. People know that you have been briefed to carry out these "hand waving" actions and foot patrols to try and sooth the anger and pain that you have caused the citizens of Caledonia. These gestures are not welcomed, since they are hollow and not from the heart. Instead these gestures are politically motivated to turn people's hearts towards McGuinty's plan of 2 tier racial law enforcement and make the people feel falsely secure and safe.

It is time to leave OPP, so that we can start building a law enforcement agency that will not be subverted by a liberal social re-engineering experiment that is called Caledonia.

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Gary,

For starters, your site is definitely loaded with interesting information and I thank and applaud you for your efforts. I am a police officer (not OPP) but I do have several friends that are in Caledonia. It really needs to be said that it is their high level command staff that are calling the shots or lack thereof in regards to what action or inaction is taken. I have worked closely with OPP and RCMP over the years and I can tell you that the RCMP has more red tape and bureaucratic B.S. than the OPP and all municipal forces combined. Their addition to the mix would not be any better. I feel sorry for the residents of Caledonia and the members of the OPP who are there with their hands tied. This occupation, or act of domestic terrorism as I like to call it, has certainly opened many people's eyes. I believe that it is solely up to the provincial government to decide what action needs to be taken. I wonder what would happen if something like this were to happen in the USA. My guess is that the US National Guard would be called in and people would be removed with as much force as was necessary... period.

Thanks again for bringing all of this information to the forefront. Frankly I'm sick of this situation and I can't believe how spineless our Gov't is.

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I live in one the remote areas where we are policed by OPP. Our town shrank in population and the tax base was stressed financially. Our wise town fathers decided to disband the local force and get the cheaper OPP. Now we're paying thru the nose.

We are training ground for new recruits who don't give two hoots for the citizens. They are constantly harassing and manhandling our young people. The kids hate them and I don't blame them.

They have dissension throughout the ranks and they lie to their staff sergeant about each other. Their professional standards will not react to any adverse situation concerning the conduct of their officers for fear of compromising criminal cases. They gossip to their non-police friends about other citizens.

I believe they should be put back into their place which was patrolling the highways.

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Disband the OPP - Viewer's Comments
The disband OPP poll has only been up for a one day and you can see the results. Here are some comments we have received. ---- voted yes.however,some comment is required.the police have been reduced to the status of tax collectors.prohibited from performing their duties by senior managers. paid for disregarding our laws [usually overtime]. most officers male and female are responsible upstanding citizens. the fault is current unqualified management. ----
Gary & Christine: Prior to reading your posting today I thought the RCMP should be brought in to get a situation, that obviously is over the OPP's heads, under control. I now strongly believe that is our only chance. We have men, women and children living under terrorism conditions that we as CANADIANS should not be having to deal with. Bring them in, destroy the houses our tax dollars have bought on the DCE and disconnect all services to the property. Since we are paying for it all we should have some say in what is done with it. Also, since the OPP were so stupid to supply your personal information to this group of disruptive people, the surveillance of your property by RCMP is also likely needed now. The RCMP should be notified of the danger the OPP have put you in. Obviously you cannot depend on the OPP to do anything if thugs should arrive on your doorstep some night. ---- Sir, I have been following your column for somewtime now and I have wtitten you before defending the OPP with which I was a member for for over 30 years, you, in my opinion seem to be on a personal vendetta against the OPP, you and your wife have taken on this cause or whatever on your own free will and seem to be upset that people are not sending you donations in support of YOUR CAUSE, to suggest that the OPP are endangering your lives is not only ludicrous but sick and I think you need proffesional help, these men and women are sworn to protect the people of Ontario (Yes even you) and I think your suggestion to people calling for a disbanding of the OPP is highly uncalled for....get a life.. ---- Dear GARY I used to spend as much time as i could visiting my big brother and sister inlaw and their 3 young babys in Caledonia. In the last six months the OPP has done nothing to help protect any none native in caledonia . My brother and sister inlaw and their 3 young have lived in hell,my 3kids are scared to visit now . I WISH THE RCMP WOULD GO TO CALEDONIA maybe then families could belive in the law again,and maybe the kids would be safe to play and go to school. ---- Hi Gary and Christine; Thank you very much for the new postings on your site. Thank you Christine - for the laughs of the "Timbit ladies". I laughed so hard I was crying. Thank you Gary and Christine - for taking the risks you have taken by visiting Caledonia and standing up for justice and democracy. I am so sorry that this small town and the lawlessness that occurs here has resulted in death threats to both of you. I am sorry that our local policing is unable to protect you and your well being. It is issues like these that make Caledonia a threat to anyone who dares to enter. When I say "thank you" for the risks, it is because it reminds me that the situation in Caledonia is real and far reaching, and that the government will not be able to assuage the fears and tears of a small town with words alone. ---- Yes, I think the RCMP could take over in the remote areas of Ontario starting with Caledonia taking over the OPP and putting RCMP instead they would do a better job handling the Caledonia standoff and I think they should start keeping a better eye on how the OPP is handling things in Ontario. I think the OPP should report to the RCMP on what is going on in the Caledonia standoff and any other big advent's happening after all the RCMP is our top police force. ---- The OPP continue to prove to Tax Paying citizens they could care less about your safty or the security of your home.They have even provided the names, addresses , phone numbers and other personal information to native protesters about people they know the Native Warriors have a BOUNTY out on.YES the OPP are actively helping the WARRIORS track these people down. I am disgusted and have had enough of the OPP. The Caledonia ladies could do a better job - at least they would TRY! ----
Sign suggestion 1. Suggestion for a sign that Caledonia shopkeepers could hang in their windows: "NO DOGS OR OPP ALLOWED" 2. Question: Why has the mayor of Haldimand not already taken action to bring in the RCMP or the Canadian Forces to take over from the OPP cowards? ---- OPP need to be replaced I have had respect for the OPP for at least 35 yrs that I can remember. I now have witnessed with my own eyes the past 4 months that the OPP are actually enforcing racial profiling policies ie treating non native persons in Caledonia as if they were the criminals in this whole Caledonia mess. At the same time, if they determine that you are a native, they will immediately look away from you and let you carry on with any form of law breaking that you want to do, so as to not upset you in any way. This is clearly racism (treating people different under the law). I used to think that the front line OPP officer was ok (ie under orders that they didn't like either) and that it was just their leaders that were at fault. However, I now think that since we have not heard a large outcry from the front line officers, I am led to believe that they are in agreement with their leadership's policy of not enforcing the rule of law nor protecting innocent law abiding citizens. To me, they have been brainwashed from the McGuinty Gov down through their chain of command to the frontline constable. You see, if frontline OPP Officers can refuse to uphold the very most basic purpose of their existence (to protect innocent citizens), then why the hell should it be so hard to band together against their higher chain of command and call for limited strikes and such (like many other police forces to when they ie don't like their current wages or something else bugs them). So it is very clear, that since no major outcry has happened, then most of the frontline officers must be in support of this present racist policing policy. Therefore, it is also very clear to me that they should be disbanded, and regional police forces need to be developed that will not be as easily corrupted by a provincial government that doesn't care about a small town that will not make any difference in getting them elected again. A regional police force situation will be more accountable to the local people and will be far more willing to defend them from terrorist like intimidation and tactics that some natives use presently (clearly, not all natives are in support of terror tactics and I wish they would become more vocal too). One thing that I would like to say to the OPP at this point is that it is offensive to many of us in Caledonia when you officers wave at us or do foot patrols in our nieghborhoods. You insult our intelligence when you think that we can't see through your efforts to "win the hearts and minds" of the non native citizen. People know that you have been briefed to carry out these "hand waving" actions and foot patrols to try and sooth the anger and pain that you have caused the citizens of Caledonia. These gestures are not welcomed, since they are hollow and not from the heart. Instead these gestures are politically motivated to turn people's hearts towards McGuinty's plan of 2 tier racial law enforcement and make the people feel falsely secure and safe. It is time to leave OPP, so that we can start building a law enforcement agency that will not be subverted by a liberal social re-engineering experiment that is called Caledonia. ---- Gary, For starters, your site is definitely loaded with interesting information and I thank and applaud you for your efforts. I am a police officer (not OPP) but I do have several friends that are in Caledonia. It really needs to be said that it is their high level command staff that are calling the shots or lack thereof in regards to what action or inaction is taken. I have worked closely with OPP and RCMP over the years and I can tell you that the RCMP has more red tape and bureaucratic B.S. than the OPP and all municipal forces combined. Their addition to the mix would not be any better. I feel sorry for the residents of Caledonia and the members of the OPP who are there with their hands tied. This occupation, or act of domestic terrorism as I like to call it, has certainly opened many people's eyes. I believe that it is solely up to the provincial government to decide what action needs to be taken. I wonder what would happen if something like this were to happen in the USA. My guess is that the US National Guard would be called in and people would be removed with as much force as was necessary... period. Thanks again for bringing all of this information to the forefront. Frankly I'm sick of this situation and I can't believe how spineless our Gov't is. ---- I live in one the remote areas where we are policed by OPP. Our town shrank in population and the tax base was stressed financially. Our wise town fathers decided to disband the local force and get the cheaper OPP. Now we're paying thru the nose. We are training ground for new recruits who don't give two hoots for the citizens. They are constantly harassing and manhandling our young people. The kids hate them and I don't blame them. They have dissension throughout the ranks and they lie to their staff sergeant about each other. Their professional standards will not react to any adverse situation concerning the conduct of their officers for fear of compromising criminal cases. They gossip to their non-police friends about other citizens. I believe they should be put back into their place which was patrolling the highways. ----